Good to arrest Mengo ministers, says Tinyefuza Print E-mail
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Written by Ssemujju Ibrahim Nganda
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 20:30
[Gen. David Tinyefuza]
Gen. David Tinyefuza
Senior Presidential Advisor and intelligence coordinator, Gen. David Tinyefuza, has said the July 18 arrest of three Buganda officials is a good thing. Charles Peter Mayiga (Minister of Information), Medard Lubega (State for Information) and Betty Nambooze Bakireke (Civic Education Central Committee chairperson) face terrorism charges, sedition, promoting sectarianism and inciting violence.
“That is purely a Police matter and I am not a policeman,” Gen. Tinyefuza said on phone this week when asked to comment on reports that he was behind the operation.
The General described as “fertile imagination” claims by some Buganda officials that the humiliating manner in which the ministers were arrested resembles tactics he usually employs. “They are crazy,” he said.
Tinyefuza added that while the arrests were a Police matter, intelligence and armed forces usually complement one another.
But Tinyefuza also approved of the arrests, saying that he would not have minded doing it.
“I wouldn’t mind doing it. Actually I would do it. It is a wonderful thing, very good and you can quote me,” he said.
Asked why he was celebrating the arrest of Buganda ministers, Tinyefuza said he would substantiate that later.
Below, excerpts from the interview.
On mobilizing tenants
Reminded that during a recent tour of Kayunga he incited tenants (bibanja holders) against land owners, Tinyefuza said, “I said more than that.
I told them that if the law cannot protect them, they should protect themselves. You see peasants being thrown away. It is unacceptable. “I don’t know why people treat tenants differently from the way they would treat shop-keepers. Chasing someone from kibanja is like chasing someone from his shop, then you go behind the counter and begin selling his merchandise. States don’t run like that.
“The reason I get involved is because these are potential areas of conflict. As a person who heads security, we must act before these things spill over. We must make sure that these matters don’t escalate into insecurity.”
Does the law allow soldiers speaking out on such matters?
“The law doesn’t allow any soldier to speak.
But other than being the coordinator of intelligence, I am a Senior Presidential Advisor on Security and I can speak in that capacity. Just like I can go to Parliament and speak as an army MP, an ordinary soldier cannot do that. I speak because for me I am assigned. Other soldiers have been appointed or seconded; for example former Chief of Staff Brig. Sam Nanyumba was in Rwanda as an ambassador and would address press conferences”.
Arrest of Mengo ministers good?
“As long as they have a case and Police has evidence. If they were breaking the law, it is good they were arrested. We don’t want anarchy. These are very weak states which we are trying to mould. You make a mistake and they go on fire. We don’t want to slide back to the days of duka duka, it is very expensive, and you cannot believe it man”.
Why move Mengo ministers to Ibanda, Kyenjojo?
“The question should be how they are treated. Are these places in Congo? Are they in Yugoslavia? This is not inter-territorial shifting. Are these places in Sudan? How does Police investigate? I would not accept a Ugandan being shifted out of our territory. A suspect can be shifted to any place in the country. This (Ibanda, Kyenjojo) is not Kinshasa! Is it not in Uganda? Complaints against shifting detainees to other places in the country makes the point, why Gandanise the arrest? For example, Maj. Gen. Jim Muhwezi was arrested (reminded that Jim has actually pointed to his ethnicity Abahororo).
That Bahororo thing is just stupid. Where does Mukula come from? I had problems the other day and I went to court; I didn’t say I was a Muhima. Does Buganda have a Police? It must be the state. If a Munyoro minister commits a crime, we can’t touch him, if a minister in the government of Rukidi Kabamba the king of Tooro commits a crime, we can’t touch him, Tinyefuza is related to Prince Barigye …
Then we better go back to the small states before the colonialists came and even build walls like those of the Chinese and then be happy. I find it a bit … Besigye has been on charges of terrorism. You need to look at these young people may be they were getting excited”.
Fate of Mengo ministers
“They are going to be charged in courts of law. They will be treated fairly. I don’t think people should worry. The whole thing is satire. People like Lukwago who is an actor like Bakayimbira are taking advantage of the arrest to gain political capital. You know Baganda say amaziga gente lye sannyu lye mbwa. He (Lukwago) is really acting, sad story. They want to make political capital. They will be treated humanely”.
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Oboth James
July 24, 2008
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Votes: -8
I have no regrets over the Mengo officials arrests in fact even Betty Kamya should have been among them.The problem i have with Baganda is that they think they are a superior tribe and are unatouchable.These people are promoting secterianism and very soon we shall see the a repeate of what happened in Rwanda.
Let me remind Mengo that political parties like FDC are using them to gain popularity and Mengo stands to lose.
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Apophia
July 24, 2008
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Oboth, if you have no origins to talk about, others have and are proud of them. The best you can do to show that Baganda is not a superior tribe is to isolate it and move back to where you came from. But the more you pour yourselves into Buganda and fail to develop your areas, the more will Baganda feel proud and look at you as migrants who do not feel comfortable with your areas of origin. It is amazing to see that even educated non-Baganda do not differentiate between bad governance on the part of government and arrogance on Buganda's part. Buganda is not the problem but the failures and inefficiencies of the ruling group. Wake up from your long slumber.
Kasule
July 24, 2008
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Votes: 2
Wasn't Tinyefuza rotting in jail just ten years ago and Baganda gave him their support? Wasn't it a Muganda lawyer who pleaded his case and won his release? Ebirwa byelabirwa!!!
His turn will come, like Kaziini's and Tumukunde's. The same guns of their master M7 will torture them.