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Re:History Lessons From Liars and Haters 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
In the same speech quoted earlier Ssaabasajja said: http://www.buganda.com/lubirisp.htm



…..Njagala njogereko ku nsonga y'ettaka. Okuva edda n'edda mu Buganda Kabaka ye Ssaabataka era ng'ayita mu bataka okutuuka ku bantube.

Ekyamutuumisa Ssaabataka era ensonga eteekesa ekitiibwa mu bataka bwe bukulu okuva edda n'edda Abaganda bwe bateeka ku ttaka. Obukulu bw'ettaka obulala bulabikira mu kitiibwa abantu kye bassa ku butaka bwabwe.



N'olwekyo nkubiriza Abaganda nate baleme kutunda kwemalako ttaka, kubanga awatali ttaka tewali Buganda. Ettaka lino bajjajjaffe lye baalwanirira muyige okulikozesa obulungi musobole okwekulaakulanya, naye temulitunda kulyemalako……



Granted, some of these people are indeed squatters, however many more foreigners are and continue to become legitimate land owners in Buganda. Who sold and continues to sell them this land? We have a communal responsibility to Buganda and that responsibility isn’t to gripe and lament aliens who we let in and settled ourselves to begin with but rather to hold onto what defines us including land even in face of external pressure and profit! I, on the other hand, fail to see why marrying a Muganda necessarily protects Buganda’s interests!



Shouldn’t we take responsibility for our actions? This talk of cessation and isolation isn’t the solution to our problems. Its especially lamentable coming from us some of whose own existence in the Diaspora is a continuous torment of segregation and the threats of repatriation!



Call me unpatriotic but I will gladly choose an alien for a neighbour over a cannibal Sserwadda !
 
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Re:History Lessons From Liars and Haters 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Nze nnawulira abakulu bagamba nti ettaka gwe mubiri gwe ggwanga, ate nga ennoono gwe mwooyo gwalyo. Abayudaya babaddewo okumala emyaka nga ettaka lyaabwe tebaliriko, era state yaabwe yazzibwaawo mu 1947 around. Ekyo tekyabagaana kubeerawo. Wabula tulina okukuuma omubiri gwegwanga lyaffe , kubanga otherwise ebiseera bibeera bizibu ku baana ne ku bazzukulu.



Bino nnabyogerako dda, naye abo abaguze ettaka mu kavuuyo, abo tebalina mateeka gabayamba. Buganda bweyetongola, obawa buwi nnaku nga bakalidde, it's legal the world over. Tewali agula ttaka mu Buganda kati atakimanyi nti tekiri mu nzikiriziganya ne bannayini lyo abe nnono. We should take responsibility for our actions, infact everyone should.

There is a long title of Buganda Esaanye Yekutule, in the Kimeeza head. Go and read there and get informed about all sorts of stuff. I myself didn't think cessation was the solution, but now I do. Cessation is not isolation, in fact in it, we the Baganda are trying to be part of a progressive black world. We are tired of asking for handouts and while we are being manipulated and our people's lives go to waste.



About intermarriage, I can see you didn't go read Ezra, you need information. You'll see exactly why God was angry with his people for mixing with these foreigners. They had bad manners. If you don't see how marrying a Muganda protects Buganda's interests, especially in this period of time we live in... Well, what can I say about that? I must say, that everynow and then, someone outside Uganda is fine by me. Because inside Uganda he/she and the children are Baganda. There is so much hatred inside Uganda right now, conflicts are ripe from many sides. Go google up some information about the different nations and what they think/say about such intermarriages.



I brought you something from the Jews, it's long, but you can find the whole thing if you google.



The Chosen People



One may ask, however, is this not a guilt trip? After all why do I have to be liable to continue this chain, to pass on the traditions and to carry the baton just because my mazal was that I was born Jewish? Who placed this awesome responsibility on my shoulders? Furthermore, there are plenty of others who will carry on the traditions. What difference does it make if I sidetrack a little and shunt myself into a dead-end?



Every merit comes with responsibility and every responsibility comes with liability. At Sinai, G–d proclaimed us the Chosen People. Chosen for what?



Just before G–d gave the Ten Commandments he spoke to Moshe and said, (Exodus 19:5,6) “Now if you obey Me and keep My covenant, you shall be my special treasure among the nations, even though all the world is Mine. You will be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation to Me.”



In these few words lies the task for which the Jews were chosen – to be a kingdom of priests. This means that every one of us must be holy in our private life, and in our association with the outside world every one of us, man or woman, must fulfil priestly functions. The priests’ function is to “bring” G–d to the people and to elevate the people to be nearer to G–d. Every Jew and Jewess fulfils their personal and “priestly” duties by living a life according to the Torah.




Nekibeeza Abaganda na Baganda, is to maintain their relationship with their God. If you look, you'll see that with the rise in the numbers of intermarriages, we are loosing it.



I don't know how unpatriotic you are, but when you are making comparisons, be fair with your subjects. Now if you want to choose between two cannibals for a neighbour, I'd advise you to choose the one you know. Like Serwadda said, his family doesn't kill, they eat the dead alredy. The other cannibals you saw kill. So there.
 
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Re:History Lessons From Liars and Haters 8 Months ago  
Steven lLubwama wrote:



Kabaka and Omukama are Luo - Museveni

Written by Steven Lubwama

Tuesday, 18 March 2008

Museveni said that the Baganda leaders like the Kabaka and the Omukama of Bunyoro are Luo.

Museveni said that the Baganda leaders like the Kabaka and the Omukama of Bunyoro are Luo.

President Yoweri Museveni has said that the Baganda should revise their history before claiming that for them they don’t have ties with other tribes. Museveni said that the Baganda leaders like the Kabaka and the Omukama of Bunyoro are Luo. He said that the ancestors of these leaders have blood connection with the Luo.



In his lengthy speech at Munyonyo in a conference aimed at discussing land matters, Museveni brought out what he called a historical fact that in 1500, the kingdoms in the central Uganda were under the vast Luo domination. He said that those who say that Buganda has a straight Ethnic origin are nonsense.



He said that even the names of some Baganda have northern origin like Wamala which he said that its Omara among the Luo. With Bunyoro and Toro, he said that the royal names like Owiny, Oyo,Okidi are from Luo land. He said that the word Wankaaki is also a Luo word meaning gate in Luo. This same word means gate again in Luganda.



Reacting on the president’s utterances, the Mengo Establishement said that they were not surprised on Mr Museveni’s words and said that they even expected more from him. Kabuza Mukasa a minister from Mengo said that though he was not surprised, the president is becoming divisive himself though he claims not to be.



Kabaka Ronald Muwenda Mutebi

Ronald Muwenda Mutebi

It should be remembered that nearly ten years ago, on January 17 1999, Princess Ndagire caused a storm in Buganda when she came out and dropped the mother of all bombs, with other princesses, they said that the Kabaka Ronald Muwenda was not royal and therefore should not hold the office of the Kabaka. They claimed that Mutebi was a son of Daudi Ochieng king Mutesa’s bosom friend.



The late Ocheng was Uganda's first anti-corruption crusader and an outspoken MP from Acholi in northern Uganda. When the story came out in papers, all hell broke loose. Pro-Mutebi royals accused the government of being behind the plot to discredit the king, especially since Ndagire was Museveni's advisor and had used soldiers to take over the Kasubi Tombs on January 9 and installed herself as the "Princess of the Burial Grounds".



Recently, the land debate has turned very hot, as different stakeholders have come out showing their sides, those pro and anti new land bill.
 
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Re:History Lessons From Liars and Haters 8 Months ago  
Identity is not Uganda’s problem



DIVERSIONARY : Margaret Wokuri Madanda



Last year when First Lady Lucy Kibaki was [mistakenly] introduced by her rival’s name at a public function, she went straight and slapped the emcee. This of course was greeted with a lot of righteous anger.



The message Lucy could have wanted to pass on was that she didn’t want to be associated or mistaken for the other woman whom she loathed.



Back here, the President was at it associating Buganda kings with the Luo: Buganda Kings are Luo, says Museveni (Daily Monitor, March 19). It is this type of provocation that results into the Lucy Kibaki behaviour.



President Museveni is well aware that the Baganda would do anything not to be associated with other tribes like the Luo and Banyoro. This is embedded in their daily speech where they will say asitamye ng’omunyoro (you are squatting like a Munyoro) or where they refer the whole of the northern tribes as Badokoro a representative word for anything resented!



This of course has nothing to do with Baganda being superior. It is something people at times just adopt as their way of life. While it is true that we came from a common ancestry, because of certain historical or cultural factors, when people cut out their identity, they don’t want to be called what they feel they are not.



In Bugisu, for example, a traditional Mugisu man would never want to be equated to an uncircumcised Munyankore man even if the Munyankore man was president. This is because of the belief that an uncircumcised person is always a boy so to them, it is grossly insulting to compare a man with a boy!



In Buganda, it is common knowledge that their relationship with northern Uganda till recently was characterised by a lot of animosity.



It was for this very reason that President Museveni was given sanctuary to fight his five-year guerrilla war in Luweero against the Badokolo. For the President to again associate Buganda with the Luo was indeed a great provocation.

But of course this is just a calculated move by the President to either dismantle the growing intimacy that has developed between northern Uganda and Buganda as a result of the land debate or it is merely a move to redirect the debate.



The President is well aware that the country is aching with more pertinent issues such as poverty and high levels of unemployment that would turn volcanic if they were given space for debate. Two years after the Bonna Baggagawale (prosperity for all) promise, there seems to be more prosperity of hopelessness amongst people instead. Aware of such bigger problems, the President is always quick to make provocative statements that derail public attention.



This is why even when he organises elections, he finds an opportunity while in Luweero to say that he would have gone back to the bush if he had lost the 1996 elections, aware that the ascendancy to the presidency in Uganda is through the ballot. He goes to Bushenyi and boasts as a hunter who will not let others enjoy his kill.




It is this same approach that he will say Buganda and Bunyoro ancestry is linked to the Luo. For the above reason, the President needs to be engaged in a cross-purpose talk. If, for instance, he says that the Baganda are Luo, the response should be that Your Excellency, the prices of commodities are going far too high. If he lectured about human evolution and how certain tribes are nearer the apes than others, our response should be about the expired drugs in hospitals and the poor UPE standards. In this way, he may be forced to address real issues that are hurting the common person.



I don’t think Uganda’s problems are about ancestry and identity, our problems are; discrimination, lack of fees for our children, the poor quality of education, poor roads, lack of markets for the rural farmer, and suffering caused by war in certain parts of the country. These are basic problems that need simple but focused solutions, not descriptions of common ancestry.













By the way wo awatandikirwa wabalondemu oba ffena tusobola okutwalawo kyetwagala kuba kirabika abaleeta ebifananyi namawulire balabika berabira okuletayo ebipya we got the message already
 
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Re:History Lessons From Liars and Haters 8 Months ago  
Bano abagwira have everything wrong with them, tebakomye kwesiba kunsi yaffe, they are killing us, stealing our land, as if that is not disconcerting enough they are now tutoring us about the history of our country. Shouldn't they restrict their expertise to war mongering, cattle rustling and pastoralism.
 
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Re:History Lessons From Liars and Haters 8 Months ago  
Oyo omusajja amanyiira ! Who told M7 that Baganda need to be lectured about their KABAKA's ancestry ?

Whether Kabaka is Luo or not is none of M7 's business !

How about M7 himself ? Nyarwanda Tutsi .....and he is deadly scared to tell the world the truth !

What a liar and a hypocrate ! TWABAKOWA......
 
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